THE USE OF CAPITALS:! Barbaros' How awful! Apposition
Why use capitalization in all these and many other groups in the universe? Would be used "in English?
No, I think not, but I leave the discussion and arguments of the learned translators and their technical assistants in some groups who advocate extreme Urantians translations or shred them senseless.
Has anyone read the rules on the use of capital letters in English and has been compared with those of English? No, I think not. Am I wrong?
Consider the translation of the group from Seville ... Would be equal to the translation for the Americas ... an unnecessary waste of capital ...
330.4) 30:1.2 I. BEINGS OF TRILL ORIGIN.
(330.5) 30:1.3 A. The Supreme Spirit.
(330.6) 30:1.4 1. The Seven Master Spirits.
(330.7) 30:1.5 2. Seven Supreme Executives.
(330.8) 30:1.6 3. Orders Seven Reflective Spirits.
(330.9) 30:1.7 B. Stationary Sons of the Trinity.
(330.10) 30:1.8 1. Trinitized Secrets of Supremacy.
(330.11) 30:1.9 2. The Eternals of Days.
(330.12) 30:1.10 3. The Ancients of Days.
(330.13) 30:1.11 4. The Perfections of Days.
(331.1) 30:1.12 5. The Recents of Days.
(331.2) 30:1.13 6. The Unions of Days.
(331.3) 30:1.14 7. The Faithful of Days.
(331.4) 30:1.15 8. Perfectors of Wisdom.
(331.5) 30:1.16 9. Divine Counselors.
(331.6) 30:1.17 10. Universal Censors.
(331.7) 30:1.18 C. Origin Beings and Beings Trinitized Trinity.
(331.8) 30:1.19 1. Trinity Teacher Sons.
(331.9) 30:1.20 2. Inspired Trinity Spirits.
(331.10) 30:1.21 3. Native Havona.
(331.11) 30:1.22 4. Citizens of Paradise.
(331.12) 30:1.23 5. The Origin Unrevealed Trinity.
(331.13) 30:1.24 6. The Unrevealed trinitized Deity.
(331.14) 30:1.25 7. The Sons of Trinitized Achievement.
(331.15) 30:1.26 8. The Sons of Trinitized Election.
(331.16) 30:1.27 9. The Sons of Perfection Trinitized.
(331.17) 30:1.28 10. Sons trinitized Creatures.
(331.18) 30:1.29 II. DOBLE.Aquellos origin beings that have their origin in any two of the Paradise Deities have been created or otherwise by any two people directly or indirectly descended from the Paradise Deities.
(331.19) 30:1.30 A. Descending Orders.
(331.20) 30:1.31 1. The Creator Sons.
(331.21) 30:1.32 2. Magisterial Sons.
(331.22) 30:1.33 3. The Bright and Morning Star.
(331.23) 30:1.34 4. Parents Melchizedek.
(331.24) 30:1.35 5. The Melchizedek.
(331.25) 30:1.36 6. The Vorondadeks.
(331.26) 30:1.37 7. The Lanonandeks.
(331.27) 30:1.38 8. The Brilliant Evening Stars.
(331.28) 30:1.39 9. Archangels.
(331.29) 30:1.40 10. Carriers Life.
(331.30) 30:1.41 11. Universal Aides Unrevealed.
(331.31) 30:1.42 12. The Sons of God Unrevealed.
(331.32) 30:1.43 B. Machinery Orders.
(331.33) 30:1.44 1. The Abandontarios.
(331.34) 30:1.45 2. Susatia.
(331.35) 30:1.46 3. Univitatia.
(331.36) 30:1.47 4. The spironga.
(331.37) 30:1.48 5. Double Origin Beings Unrevealed.
(331.38) 30:1.49 C. The ascending order.
(331.39) 30:1.50 1. The Adjuster-fused mortals.
(331.40) 30:1.51 2. The Son-fused mortals.
(331.41) 30:1.52 3. The Spirit-fused mortals.
(331.42) 30:1.53 4. The Middle Moved.
(331.43) 30:1.54 5. The Unrevealed Ascending.
(332.2) 30:1.56 A. The Supreme Spirit.
(332.3) 30:1.57 1. Gravity Messengers.
(332.4) 30:1.58 2. The Seven Spirits of the Circuits Havona.
(332.5) 30:1.59 3. Aides Dodécuples Havona Circuit.
(332.6) 30:1.60 4. Aides Reflective Images.
(332.7) 30:1.61 5. Spirits Mother of the Universes.
(332.8) 30:1.62 6. The Sevenfold Adjutant Mind Spirits.
(332.9) 30:1.63 7. The Origin Unrevealed with the Deity.
(332.10) 30:1.64 B. The ascending order.
(332.11) 30:1.65 1. Custom settings.
(332.12) 30:1.66 2. Ascending Material Sons.
(332.13) 30:1.67 3. Evolutionary Seraphim.
(332.14) 30:1.68 4. Evolutionary Cherubim.
(332.15) 30:1.69 5. The Unrevealed Ascending.
(332.16) 30:1.70 C. The family of the Infinite Spirit.
(332.17) 30:1.71 1. Solitary Messengers.
(332.18) 30:1.72 2. The Circuit Supervisors of the Universe.
(332.19) 30:1.73 3. The Census Directors.
(332.20) 30:1.74 4. Personal assistants of the Infinite Spirit.
(332.21) 30:1.75 5. The Associate Inspectors.
(332.22) 30:1.76 6. Assigned Sentinels.
(332.23) 30:1.77 7. The Graduate Guides.
(332.24) 30:1.78 8. The Servitals Havona.
(332.25) 30:1.79 9. The Universal Conciliators.
(332.26) 30:1.80 10. Morontia Companions.
(332.27) 30:1.81 11. The Supernaphim.
(332.28) 30:1.82 12. The Seconaphim.
(332.29) 30:1.83 13. Tertiaphim.
(332.30) 30:1.84 14. Omniaphim.
(332.31) 30:1.85 15. The Angels.
(332.32) 30:1.86 16. The Cherubim and sanobim.
(332.33) 30:1.87 17. The Origin Unrevealed with the Spirit.
(332.34) 30:1.88 18. Seven Supreme Power Directors.
(332.35) 30:1.89 19. The Supreme Power Centers.
(332.36) 30:1.90 20. Master Physical Controllers.
(332.37) 30:1.91 21. Morontia Power Supervisors.
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(333.2) 30:1.94 1. The Master Architect of the Universe.
(333.3) 30:1.95 2. Transcendental Recorders.
(333.4) 30:1.96 3. Other Landmark.
(333.5) 30:1.97 4. Organizers Existenciados Force Primary Teachers.
(333.6) 30:1.98 5. The Master Force Organizers Landmark Associates.
(333.13) 30:1.105 Consumption Fate of the Universe.
(333.14) 30:1.106 The Last Vicegerents Qualified.
(334.1) 30:1.107 Unqualified Supervisors of the Supreme.
(334.2) 30:1.108 Unrevealed Creative Agents of the Ancients of Days.
(334.3) 30:1.109 Majeston of Paradise.
(334.4) 30:1.110 The unnamed Links Majeston reflectors.
(334.5) 30:1.111 Midsonite Orders Local Universe.
(334.10) 30:2.2 1. Deities of Paradise.
(334.11) 30:2.3 2. The Supreme Spirit.
(334.12) 30:2.4 3. Beings with Origin in the Trinity.
(334.13) 30:2.5 4. The Sons of God.
(334.14) 30:2.6 5. Personalities of the Infinite Spirit.
(334.15) 30:2.7 6. The Universal Power Directors.
(334.16) 30:2.8 7. The Permanent Citizens Corps.
(335.5) 30:2.14 II. THE SUPREME SPIRIT.
(335.6) 30:2.15 1. The Seven Master Spirits.
(335.7) 30:2.16 2. Seven Executives Paramount.
(335.8) 30:2.17 3. Group Seven Reflective Spirits.
(335.9) 30:2.18 4. Aides Reflective Images.
(335.10) 30:2.19 5. The Seven Spirits of the Circuits.
(335.11) 30:2.20 6. Creative Spirits of the Local Universe.
(335.12) 30:2.21 7. The Adjutant Mind Spirits.
(335.13) 30:2.22 III. THE LIVING WITH ORIGIN IN THE TRINITY.
(335.14) 30:2.23 1. Trinitized Secrets of Supremacy.
(335.15) 30:2.24 2. The Eternals of Days.
(335.16) 30:2.25 3. The Ancients of Days.
(335.17) 30:2.26 4. The Perfections of Days.
(335.18) 30:2.27 5. The Recents of Days.
(335.19) 30:2.28 6. The Unions of Days.
(335.20) 30:2.29 7. The Faithful of Days.
(335.21) 30:2.30 8. Trinity Teacher Sons.
(335.22) 30:2.31 9. Perfectors of Wisdom.
(335.23) 30:2.32 10. Divine Counselors.
(335.24) 30:2.33 11. Universal Censors.
(335.25) 30:2.34 12. Inspired Trinity Spirits.
(335.26) 30:2.35 13. Native Havona.
(335.27) 30:2.36 14. Citizens of Paradise.
(335.28) 30:2.37 IV. THE CHILDREN OF GOD.
(335.29) 30:2.38 A. Descending Sons.
(335.30) 30:2.39 1. The Creator Sons - the Michaels.
(335.31) 30:2.40 2. Sons Master - Avonals.
(335.32) 30:2.41 3. Trinity Teacher Sons - the Daynals.
(335.33) 30:2.42 4. The Melchizedek Sons.
(335.34) 30:2.43 5. Vorondadeks Sons.
(335.35) 30:2.44 6. Lanonandeks Sons.
(335.36) 30:2.45 7. The Child Life Carriers.
(335.37) 30:2.46 B. Ascending Sons.
(335.38) 30:2.47 1. Fused Mortals with the Father.
(335.39) 30:2.48 2. The Son-fused mortals.
(335.40) 30:2.49 3. The Spirit-fused mortals.
(335.41) 30:2.50 4. Evolutionary Seraphim.
(335.42) 30:2.51 5. Ascending Material Sons.
(335.43) 30:2.52 6. The Middle Moved.
(335.44) 30:2.53 7. Custom settings.
(336.1) 30:2.54 C. Trinitized children.
(336.2) 30:2.55 1. Mighty Messengers.
(336.3) 30:2.56 2. Those High in Authority.
(336.4) 30:2.57 3. Those without Name and Number.
(336.5) 30:2.58 4. The trustees Trinitized.
(336.6) 30:2.59 5. Trinitized Ambassadors.
(336.7) 30:2.60 6. The Celestial Guardians.
(336.8) 30:2.61 7. Aides High Son.
(336.9) 30:2.62 8. Sons trinitized ascenders.
(336.10) 30:2.63 9. The Children of Paradise Trinitized Havona.
(336.11) 30:2.64 10. The Sons of Destiny Trinitized.
(336.12) 30:2.65 V. PERSONALITIES OF THE INFINITE SPIRIT.
(336.13) 30:2.66 A. Higher Personalities of the Infinite Spirit.
(336.14) 30:2.67 1. Solitary Messengers.
(336.15) 30:2.68 2. The Circuit Supervisors of the Universe.
(336.16) 30:2.69 3. The Census Directors.
(336.17) 30:2.70 4. Personal Assistants of the Infinite Spirit.
(336.18) 30:2.71 5. The Associate Inspectors.
(336.19) 30:2.72 6. Assigned Sentinels.
(336.20) 30:2.73 7. The Graduate Guides.
(336.21) 30:2.74 B. The Messenger Hosts of Space.
(336.22) 30:2.75 1. The Havona Servitals.
(336.23) 30:2.76 2. The Universal Conciliators.
(336.24) 30:2.77 3. Technical Advisers.
(336.25) 30:2.78 4. The Custodians of Records of Paradise.
(336.26) 30:2.79 5. Celestial Recorders.
(336.27) 30:2.80 6. Morontia Companions.
(336.28) 30:2.81 7. Paradise Companions.
(336.29) 30:2.82 C. Ministering Spirits.
(336.30) 30:2.83 1. The Supernaphim.
(336.31) 30:2.84 2. The Seconaphim.
(336.32) 30:2.85 3. Tertiaphim.
(336.33) 30:2.86 4. Omniaphim.
(336.34) 30:2.87 5. The Angels.
(336.35) 30:2.88 6. The Cherubim and sanobim.
(336.36) 30:2.89 7. The Middle.
(336.40) 30:2.93 1. Supreme Supervisors Centers.
(336.41) 30:2.94 2. Havona Centers.
(336.42) 30:2.95 3. Superuniverses Centers.
(336.43) 30:2.96 4. The Centers Local Universe.
(336.44) 30:2.97 5. The Centers for Constellation.
(336.45) 30:2.98 6. Systems Centers.
(336.46) 30:2.99 7. The Centers are not labeled.
(337.1) 30:2.100 C. Master Physical Controllers.
(337.2) 30:2.101 1. Associate Directors of Power.
(337.3) 30:2.102 2. Drivers mechanically.
(337.4) 30:2.103 3. Power Transformers.
(337.5) 30:2.104 4. Energy Transmitters.
(337.6) 30:2.105 5. The primary associations.
(337.7) 30:2.106 6. Secondary disassociate.
(337.8) 30:2.107 7. The Frandalanks and Cronoldeks.
(337.9) 30:2.108 D. Morontia Power Supervisors.
(337.10) 30:2.109 1. Circuit Regulators.
(337.11) 30:2.110 2. Systems Coordinators.
(337.12) 30:2.111 3. Planetary Trustees.
(337.13) 30:2.112 4. Combined Drivers.
(337.14) 30:2.113 5. The stabilizers of the connections.
(337.15) 30:2.114 6. Classifiers Selective.
(337.16) 30:2.115 7. Associated records.
(337.17) 30:2.116 VII. Citizen Corps permanent.
(337.18) 30:2.117 1. The Planetary Intermediate.
(337.19) 30:2.118 2. The Adamic children Systems.
(337.20) 30:2.119 3. Constellation univitatia.
(337.21) 30:2.120 4. Susatia of the Local Universe.
(337.22) 30:2.121 5. The Local Universe Mortal Spirit-fused.
(337.23) 30:2.122 6. The Abandontarios of Superuniverses.
(337.24) 30:2.123 7. Mortals of fused Superuniverses Son.
(337.25) 30:2.124 8. Native Havona.
(337.26) 30:2.125 9. Natives of Paradise of the Spirit Spheres.
(337.27) 30:2.126 10. Natives of the Father's Paradise Spheres.
(337.28) 30:2.127 11. Created Citizens of Paradise.
(337.29) 30:2.128 12. Deadly Paradise Citizens Adjuster-fused.
(337.33) 30:2.132 1. The Corps of Mortal Finaliters.
(337.34) 30:2.133 2. The Body of Paradise Finaliters.
(337.35) 30:2.134 3. The Corps of Finaliters Trinitized.
(337.36) 30:2.135 4. The Corps of Trinitized Finaliters Sets.
(337.37) 30:2.136 5. The Corps of Finaliters Havonianos.
(337.38) 30:2.137 6. The Main Transcendental Finaliters.
(337.39) 30:2.138 7. The body of the Sons of Destiny Unrevealed.
(337.40) 30:2.139 The Corps of Mortal Finality will be discussed in the next and final paper of this series.
(338.1) 30:2.140 B. Aides Universal.
(338.2) 30:2.141 1. The Bright and Morning Star.
(338.3) 30:2.142 2. The Brilliant Evening Stars.
(338.4) 30:2.143 3. Archangels.
(338.5) 30:2.144 4. Highs Assistants.
(338.6) 30:2.145 5. The High Commissioners.
(338.7) 30:2.146 6. Celestial Overseers.
(338.8) 30:2.147 7. Educators of the Mansion World.
(338.10) 30:2.149 C. Courtesy of Seven Colonies.
(338.11) 30:2.150 1. Student Stars.
(338.12) 30:2.151 2. The Celestial Artisans.
(338.13) 30:2.152 3. The Directors of the reversal.
(338.14) 30:2.153 4. Instructors Attached faculties.
(338.15) 30:2.154 5. The Different Reserve Corps.
(338.16) 30:2.155 6. Student Visitor.
(338.17) 30:2.156 7. Ascending Pilgrims.
And some more ...
Errors In The Translations Of The Urantia Book / Mistakes In The Translations Of The UB
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According to the translation of Seville, the "ascenders" not the "Pilgrims from Paradise." In this paragraph, it takes close apposition "the pilgrims of Paradise" with a comma, otherwise it seems a different group of beings
(289.3) 26:3.10 7. Reserve Corps. Fluctuations of work with the ascenders, Paradise pilgrims and other orders of beings living in Havona make it necessary to maintain these reserves in supernaphim the pilot world of the seventh circle, from which they originated. Are created without a special purpose and are trained to manage the phases used in less demanding of any of the obligations of its partners superaphic tertiary order.
should say:
fluctuations work with ascenders, the pilgrims Paradise, and other orders of living beings ...
But I understand that can happen to anyone ...
7. The Reserve Corps. The Fluctuations in the work with the ascendant Beings, the Paradise pilgrims , and other orders of beings sojourning in Havona, make it necessary to maintain these reserves of supernaphim on the pilot world of the seventh circle, where they take origin. They are created without special design and are competent to take up service in the less exacting phases of any of the duties of their superaphic associates of the tertiary order.
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OF THE TERM "MASTER" ... NO, NOT "MAESTRO"
Definition: expert
Synonyms: experienced, masterly, proficient, skilled, skillful
¿Quizás se quiere decir "técnicos de maestría"?
En la traducción del equipo de Sevilla, "master" se ha traducido en este párrafo erróneamente como "maestro":
(288.6) 26:3.6 3. Transmitters. The children of the Third Circuit Spirit operating in all Havona, although his official station is located on the world number seventy of the outermost circle. These technical teachers receive and send transmissions to the central building are the directors of the reports that are transmitted over all space-related phenomena that occur Deity in Paradise. Can work with all essential circuits of space.
3. The Broadcasters. The children of the third Circuit Spirit THROUGHOUT Havona function, although Their official station is Located on planet number seventy in the Outermost circle. These master Technicians Are the broadcast receivers and senders of the central creation and the directors of the space reports of all phenomena on Paradise Deity. They CAN Operate all of the basic circuits of space.
But these techniques do not give anyone class. If you look, the noun "master" used as an adjective, means "expert", "experienced" "diestros", etc.
Main Entry: master
Part of Speech: adjective Definition: expert
Synonyms: experienced, masterly, proficient, skilled, skillful
¿Quizás se quiere decir "técnicos de maestría"?
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MAY NOT BE SUCCESSFUL TRANSLATION "Broadcasters" AS "SPEAKERS"
"Transmitters" sounds a bit strange - like other terms Urantia - but semantically more appropriate. I do not know if "reporters", less mechanical, could be worth. But the problem does not end here: if you have chosen this translation: be consistent. Let's see:
Si se observa el contexto y el significado de "broadcasters", y la acepción de este témino en el diccionario español, no parece demasiado adecuado esta traducción: [Latin American]
(288.6) 26:3.6 3. speakers. Spirit Children of the Third Circuit Havona function throughout, although his official station is located on the world number seventy in the outer circle. These technicians deans are the recipients and senders of transmissions from the central building and the directors of the space reports of all the phenomena of the Deity in Paradise. Can operate all the basic circuits of space.
3. The Broadcasters. The children of the third Circuit Spirit THROUGHOUT Havona function, although Their official station is Located on planet number seventy in the Outermost circle. These Master Technicians Are the broadcast receivers and senders of the central creation and the directors of the space reports of all phenomena on Paradise Deity. They CAN Operate all of the basic circuits of space .
"Transmitters" sounds a bit strange - like other terms Urantia - but semantically more appropriate. I do not know if "reporters", less mechanical, could be worth. But the problem does not end here: if you have chosen this translation: be consistent. Let's see:
5. The Intelligence Co-ordinators. These tertiary supernaphim, the children of the fifth Circuit Spirit, are always the wise and sympathetic promoters of fraternal association between the ascending and the descending pilgrims. They minister to all the inhabitants of Havona, and especially to the ascenders, by keeping them currently informed regarding the affairs of the universe of universes. By virtue of personal contacts with the broadcasters and the reflectors, these “living newspapers” of Havona are instantly conversant with all information passing over the vast news circuits of the central universe .
Aquí se repite el término, but it has been translated as "issuer"
(289.1) 26:3.8 5. Information Coordinators. These supernaphim grandchildren, children of the fifth Spirit Circuits are always wise and compassionate advocates of the fraternal association among the pilgrims ascending and descending. Minister to all Havoners, and especially the upstream, keeping them informed on the affairs of the universe of universes. Under the personal contacts with issuers and reflectors, these "newspapers living "Havona instantly know all information passing through the vast circuit of the central news.
Something like that can create confusion.
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